by canerodscom 05/09/09 02:32, Post (John Channer), I have never been able to describe to anyone else how a rod feels to them. Orvis passed the 60,000 bamboo rods made number quite some time back and of course is still making them. To my way of looking at this taper, its definitely an 8 wt. 0.153 "Proper amounts" and "correct points" are hardly scientifically precise terms, so I regret that I don't know what you might mean. My 2 cents. And well worth the little time it takes to execute. (Mark Wendt), Thanks Dennis! 0.241 by Lee Koch 06/12/16 21:18, Post The 1952 Dickerson is similar to the GW except it's a 5/6 wt. An awful lot of fudging, especially as he could have made up tip rings quite easily. .212 is way too big for a 13/64, it's well into the 14/64 fit range. 0.308 15 .128 .274 $239.00 + $24.95 shipping (2) Vintage HEDDON PAL Casting Rods - #6277 Wormer 5'6"+ #6273 Musky Special 5' . Even then I wince about their roll casting deficiencies. Taxes and shipping calculated at checkout, Browse our bamboo fly rods in stock and available now, Browse our collection of reels in stock and available now. If you want a starting point then make the rate of taper 20 thousandths per inch and hollow build to 50 or 60% of original wall thickness. As Lou points out, it is nicest with the kind of ferrule Dickerson made himself. In practice most people these days do not take well to these technically correct ideas, preferring a slope to the straight line, giving higher strain levels near the tip, i.e. by cutthroattroutnm 05/09/09 16:50, Post I would be very interested in hearing what you have to say about the differences between the two tapers. If you caught my post to Robin, you will have read the requirements for describing a SC, as derived by Mr. Everett Garrison in his book. I just wanted to make the point that there's a difference between a rod with a straight taper and one with a straight, flat stress curve. Bill Wara. The 3 flats got averaged and put into a column in the center of the page. 5 .326 .168 Using too small a ferrule may be a factor. The 1st station on the butt section is NOT .214, it should be.208@0, then as follows: .214@5 Information About Makers and Manufacturers, Appraisals & Identification of Bamboo Fly Rods. You can design a flyrod, racing bicycle, airplane or motorcar to do one thing superbly with ease. This butt can be a foot shorter than the tip and of straight taper. In other words as the load increased, more of the rod would flex in a liner fashion. I only use short rods on overgrown streams. 40 .200 .070 Just a topic to ponder on these slow summer days. We're committed to providing a safe, comfortable environment for our travelers. Jim Schaaf. 0.334 by bluesjay 06/19/16 13:59, Post 70 0.261 133729 Why? 25 .232 .115 It could very well be that you could order just as fast a Payne. Modified Lyle Dickerson 6611 Dry-Fly Action: 6' 6" 3 or 4: 11/64: 2/2: P702: Ponds, creeks . I hope this is for step down ferrule. I have made about 6 for auctions and as favors and all have been very well received and enjoyed. We will see how it turns out. The ordeal with the broken rod changed my whole way of looking at ferrule sizes. As a rule I only make #5 rods (like Marinaro) and the bulk of these are less than 7'6". I thought it was in there, but I didn't have the link, and the CD I got from Lowell is at home. (Reed Guice), Dickerson used the ferrule sizes in the rod to denote both the ferrule and the number of pieces in the rod. Removing material in the center creates a hinge aiding in roll casting ability (thank you Harry for that bit of information). Narrow steam but very exposed and windy thus needing a #5 line? Chris acquired one shortly thereafter. The rod is currently 7'-2" after a test fit so I want to trim to the correct 7-0 length. Adding material to the butt section will stiffen and add power. You can build this rod and have a neutral action rod (my term). You may think you are being rude about "Classic" production methods, but they're probably better than mine. 5 0.0825 Ralph Tuttle did the actual spreadsheet work. (Greg Reeves), TipsHome - What'sNew - Tips - Articles - Tutorials - Contraptions - Contributors - Search Site - ContactUs - TaperArchives by avyoung 06/16/16 18:33, Post As most of you already know Paul Young was notorious for having quite a few different tapers for the same model over the course of his career. But you also have the opportunity to add or remove material any ware alone the length of that rod and doing so will have an taper specific effect on the casting/fishing characteristics of the rod. I deducted .005 for the varnish. A straight line taper could be arbitrary, but in this case it is very specific to line weight. (Stephen Dugmore). 0.369 So now where do you add or subtract material and what effect will it have on the rod. Its definitely a bigger water rod that the 7613. I have limited the list as practical to tapers which are not obviously taken from Hexrod.net, in RodDNA, or in contemporary books such as Howells, Gould or Mauer. Yes. If you want to make one as a sort of standard then try a rate of taper of 13.5 thousandths per station, it gives a Gould rating of 270 which is a useful point about which to have a conversation with yourself about what you think is medium fast and what you think is fast. Good question and I will tell you as soon as I finish my 5wt SLT. Pt 0 is the butt side of the strips. But I imagine that high output builders didn't have every rod turn out the same for whatever reason. More info. And why not? Tom Smithwick. Summers & Co. - Womens Sports ApparelBob with Granddaughter Cara FlyfishingGreat Brown, Rainbow and Cutthroat Fly FishingOutdoor Writer and Used Book SalesFishing and Wing Shooting Guide ServiceGreat Lakes Charter FishingSporting JewlerCustom GunsmithingFine Hand EngravingFine Reel & Rod Cases, 90 River Road, EastTraverse City, Michigan 49696 USAPhone/Fax (231) 946-7923bobsummers@charter.net, 2222 - 7. (Mark Wendt), Was the varnish allowance of .004 already subtracted from the numbers for the 661510, or does it need to be done? 0.196 Even if EC did "compound" his B-9 taper just in front of the ferrule for a specific reason, it wouldn't negate the fact that this is AT HEART A STRAIGHT TAPER. The rest of the shown increase is, in my opinion, just for looks. (Paul Blakley), I think a 7'6'' rod is short for any line weight. (John Silveira). Just have finish paying for the last kids college. This is a set of 13-14/64 step down ferrules. Springcreek, the 8013 you have listed. 0.220 4 wt 0.0680 to use it on trout other than the Yough, Savage River reservoir and some lakes. (Mark Wendt), At least according to Jack Howell's measured tapers in "The Lovely Reed". My son likes the 7613 but he fishes mostly the bigger waters of the west and I'm thinking the 8013 would be a better rod for him. (Robin Haywood). The 8014 taper was devised later in Lyle's life and reflects both this ma Its just simply to do with maximum stiffness (IE minimum deflection) for a given material weight. Information About Makers and Manufacturers, Appraisals & Identification of Bamboo Fly Rods. To the right of that you'll see there is a column allowing for varnish. It you look at the 8013 it is a 5/6 wt with a tip that's a little stronger than the 7613's but not by much. Halstead. The slope of the taper of this rod is .014/5" or a B-8.4 (taking the average drop from 80" thru 0"). 85 0.296 138357 I have not tried it with an 8 weight but I will as soon as I get back from Texas, ya'll. The tips look essentially the same. Easy casting and very versatile. 10 .110 .254 Consider one or the other of these two if your rod maker intends to fit the rod with step down ferrules, since there is a .010" step down across the ferrule stations. You can built say a 5wt using a 13/64 ferrule and any of these slopes, and they'll all be 5 weights, but if you do the math you'll see that the tip dimensions would vary greatly. (Jay Hake), Apparently Dickerson didn't think so. (Jerry Foster), Where do you get that? Casting 20 feet of 5wt line the stress curve is flat. Part of the midwest cadre of noted builders, he built rods from the 1930's onward and was especially known for his fast two-piece rods. double taper silk lines at short ranges. by dkrismer 06/12/16 20:36, Post 45 0.1985 Help from forum members would be welcomed. Here are the numbers someone else posted earlier this year for the Dickerson 8014 GS. If you want a rod that feels like a SLT then you must compensate for the ferrules and varnish and guides by adding the proper amount of bamboo at the correct points on the taper. Has anyone cast both 1949 and 1951 versions of the Dickerson 8013 as described in Howell's book? Tuesday - Sunday, 10am to 4pm, Winter They turn into 5 wts at about 60 feet, up till there, they are are 6 wts. Hi Guys, Also, some of those Heddons would have had pins through the tab area causing, in my view, problems. Assuming this to be thus you have made adjustments so small that they are mostly below normal error, and if we allow a factor for variation in natural materials then the exercise becomes entirely futile except as an exercise in applied physics! maybe someone else has one! In fact, as the requirements of a stream rod are very simple, this is what we do. As long as a maker includes the correct ferrule drop, Dickerson tapers are no more difficult to make than most others. It has a small flex area in the lower tip with a stronger butt sloping up toward the end with a good butt swell; fast rod. Are you so precise in your planing that all your stations are bang on, with less than .001"? in practice however, there is little point in going below 7'6'', really. The Dickerson step down ferrule concept I need to know. Reducing material in the butt section will make the butt more limber and allow flex deeper into the butt. At The Airport. by avyoung 06/12/16 18:13, Post Examples would be different techniques or methods used by restorationists and makers. 2023 American Museum Of Fly Fishing. So this spring I made the Dickerson 8014 Guide taper and prefer it for Lake Bass and larger bluegill. (Al Baldauski). That is all I did! ChristmasMissives - ChatRoom - PhotoGalleries - LineConversions - TheJourney - ExtremeRodmaking - Rodmaker'sPictures - Donate - Store. I repaired the rod with by putting on a custom ferrule. The best reason that I can give you as to why Dickersons are popular tapers (Along with another Michigan maker Paul Young) is that they are nice casting rods and fit our fishing very well. Rod making, restoration, repairs and discussion on those related topics concerning bamboo rods. DICKERSON 801610 - 8' 3/2 - 5wt- honey colored - medium powerful action trout fishing rod this rod is my favorite 8 foot Dickerson - originals are very rare - incredible power in a true 5w$ 2150us (all 3pc 2tip rods)DICKERSON 7613 - 7'6"- one of my all time favorite 5wts, copied in Dickerson's style can be custom made with tips of four different actions below: DICKERSON 7613 LS - the lightest of this series - for closer casting to 40 feetDICKERSON 7613 L - very nice all-round trout taper, full, medium fast actionDICKERSON 7613 M - quick, full dry fly rod - nice to have when the hatch startsDICKERSON 7613 H the 6wt, "big gun" of this series, good for big flies, streamers, $ 1750us w/one tip $ 1950us w/two tips $ 2150us w/three (or all 3pc 2tip rods) $ 2350us w/full set of four tips in all actions. he then concludes with a diabolical smile. Dickerson 801611-D - 8ft 3pc 7wt Posted by Jeremy Gray, Aug 30, 2000. The last tip measurement (that goes into the male ferrule) is .204. So far all those posted were missing the 1st station on the butt section. They would be, Heavy butt section, Light butt section, heavy tip, light tip, Parabolic (heavy in the middle) and the hinge (light in the middle). I think of it as an 8013G. Dickerson 8015 Guide Special, 2607 - 5. Maybe it is the version of the taper they are making, there are several out there. Just looking for a taper that accommodates the step down ferrule nicely. 0 0.068 70 0.271 Spotted lanternfly is an invasive plant hopper native to eastern Asia. 8ft #5wt. In the hands of a good caster, this taper will make a fly line do things that amaze. Thanks. I am sure there are situations where a bit more length would be helpful, but who am I to argue with Mr. Dickerson? by avyoung 06/12/16 21:25, Post Actually I feel an increase of .030 would be sufficient. - Led Zeppelin, 10 Years Gone. 0.288 The 6 for the Hex the 7 for streamers. Jim Payne. This means that the finished rod will cast like a ONE PIECE SLT rod. Following tests I no longer cook UHU. Sorry! The reason I also advise using stress curves is that when you make changes, add or remove bamboo, you also effect the rest of the rod. (Tim Pembroke). They look very representative to what I have seen. These are Bob's dimensions. Find great quality fly fishing rods at an affordable price that fits any budget. When things are stated incorrectly, many of the newer makers on the list can get very confused. There are several different specs for this taper out there, three of which I use. I would argue that the variances are due to machine error, rather than deliberate (consider that you are tapering the strips by running them thru a glorified router, excuse me milling machine, using a worn wooden pattern board running over metal rollers, to determine the taper. 5 .096 .244 Somehow the "D" was either left off by me in the original posting or was lost in translation to David's site. It might depend, but only a bit, on what you call "very nice" and I see that your figure for station rise was almost exactly the figure I suggested. However if we can define specific regions (tip, middle, butt) and understand the effect of removing or adding material in these areas. Deduct 0.006 from butt, 0.004 from tip. by LeeO 05/26/17 07:47, Post 0.275 that is less the difference of the step. As a general rule, a 12/64 gives you a four weight, a 13/64 a five, 14 or 15 a six. Very smooth and plenty of power for a 5 wt should you need it. The top snake guide on the butt has a bit of a bend to it. So I thought I would answer that question and build one. To this Robin brings up the complications created by the weight and placement of ferrules etc. I just read this to myself and it's obviously as clear as mud! (Bret Reiter), I call this one a seven too. Point Dimension 0.214 In the upper left corner, in blue, you'll see the real measurements we took, for all 3 flats at each measurement point. Remember that respect and civility is the goal of this board. 7 wt 0.0790 4.6 ounces. 25 .156 .310 (Chris Obuchowski). OK, the rod was a Paul Young Perfectionist. 0.138 (Will McMurrey). As good a seven and a half foot 3-piece rod taper as any ever designed. I think it is a fantastic taper. Hmmm. Stress curves are the only tool I have seen that give you a visual image of exactly what you have changed and the consequences of that action. (There is a table of blue numbers for each rod section). Most of the ones I have made and sold are the PHY Perfectionist taper. The taper is designed for trout fishing. Just as the "super Z's" have a female barrel that is 2/64's larger than the bamboo sleeve or male insert, it is the same, but opposite with the Dickerson style "stepped" ferrules. by Jim 05/08/09 01:45, Post 60 0.242 A significant part of that application are the prejudices of the person who is going to be using it. In fact, I used this taper, hollow built, when taking the FFF casting certification test. Gary - The following taper was taken from a varnished 8013. Thanks for the feedback, very helpful. I think you are being a tad myopic, if you can't see that .016, .014, and .015 AVERAGE OUT to equal .014". The difference is for a step-down ferrule. Nowadays, some guys machine ferrules out of bar stock, and they have a reasonable way to make the openings different sizes on the top and bottom. Dickerson 8014 Fred Bears Rod, 2606 -1. .288@30 Only lost 1/2 inch in rod length. Harry Boyd ----------- Harry Boyd http://www.canerods.com maker@canerods.com Aransas.clarks Guide Posts: 301 It is my belief that there are only seven truly different tapers available as a base to design rods from. Made 4 or 5 of the lighter. I just put stepdown ferrules on my first rod, an 8014 Dickerson. For the tip section use the smaller number and for the butt section use the larger number. But more relevant and to the point, I bought a single tip Dickerson 7613 from John and he recently provided me with a second tip from pre-embargo cane and original Dickerson hardware, and the action is a dead ringer for the original Dickerson 7613. If I were to make it I would use .040 bring the 80" value to .328, this is enough to stop all the rod action. He can correct this if he is still hanging around. Spring Creek Four, Bob Summers has built and repaired quality bamboo fly rods since 1956. I get tired of hearing that kind of comment. The action, for those who are more familiar fishing graphite rods, is quite easy to get used to. 35 .186 .326 On Corrib I used an 8'8''#4 nearly all the time, in fact I designed it for the job. (Robin Haywood). Most of the classic rodmakers continually "fudged" their tapers over the years (sometimes unintentionally due to machine and pattern wear, and sometimes deliberately). I am sure that the step-downs are important in copying the taper design exactly. As to my question about the ferrules is, your rods say, e.g. The conversion file will convert tapers for Solid and Fluted rods for quad, penta, hepta, and oct construction. The butts are just not stiff enough, although, in some, the tips are quite satisfactory. (Greg Reeves), This version appears to me to take a step into account. I've made at least a dozen Perfectionists (most with a swelled butt so they aren't exactly the same) and all their owners love them. Very Good condition. by oldfishbrain 06/19/16 10:39, Post Not too many folks consider these mediocre. Gillum Rods. 0.128 Suggest that you subtract .006 for varnish. Conversely, the .202 is at the low end of fit for a 14/64. Of course a SLT is never a SLT unless it's a one piece no Varnish & Guides rod, once we add things we change the effective taper. Don't leave us hangin' here with a sniper shot and leave ;-) (Mark Wendt), Truth be known, I prefer Payne to Dickerson. I fish mostly Michigan streams where you are wading the stream casting to the edges, and casting to rising fish wherever you are lucky enough to find them. Dickerson R.W. This rod consists of medium tempered cane constructed in a 3x3 node pattern with Dickerson tan wraps and black tipping. The fact that a rod has a straight taper does not tell us if the stress curve is flat or slopes up or down. Some people call them "step-down" but it is worth noting that the top and the bottom openings of his ferrules are usually the same diameter; the "step" across the ferrule occurred in the bamboo, not the metal. (Bob Norwood). What does the taper of a rod that roll cast well look like? You have a rod with a taper of approximately 0.0028 per inch. All he needed to do was speed up the butts, preferably with a concave taper form, and he would really have been cooking with gas! I'm probably going to have to find a use for one as it happens as a design for a 7'6'' #4 that is nearing ringing looks a bit beefy for a #4. It's why I'm fussy about ring weight on the tips of rods below #6. I beef up the last 3 inches of the tip to fit the 14/64 male ferrule. 0.111 (Inches) (Inches) Stress More than an eight weight is required to handle the largest of flies. I think I can reply for Dennis, as I was one of the guys who measured those rods. In fact, I had great trouble casting the bloody thing. (Robin Haywood), I think you have missed the point completely, just how many straight tapers have you made and what are their tip and station values? CFRF Tapers Tapers from Classic Fly Rod Forum The links below are to "classic" tapers posted to the Classic Fly Rod Forum (http://classicflyrodforum.com) in the Taper Exchange subforum. All Rights Reserved. 40 0.180 146694 The file will convert hex tapers to Quad, Penta, Hex, Hepta and Oct tapers. These get assimilated quite directly into stress curve approach. I believe he told me he placed his roll casting hinge 10"-15" above the handle, depending on rod length. The swell should start in front of the cork, at least 3" to 5". Some use this to define the average rod speed. The trouble is, really, that I know there are people out there who really do understand taper design, it's getting them to talk to us about it thats the problem. These were Bailey Woods stepdown ferrules. 20 0.131 154180 (Peter Jones) And, it's true, if you were really screwed and couldn't get a Dickerson, and were absolutely forced to rough it with a Payne, I do think you could manage to get by without shedding too many tears. I like 8013's. Over the time I have made rods. (Dennis Higham). From 80 to 85, there is an increase of ~.070. Mr. Garrison did indeed design excellent rod tapers, but his tapers as well as all tapers ONLY HAVE A STRAIGHT HORIZONTAL STRESS CURVE under a very specific set of line conditions, outside of these conditions the SC is no longer Horizontal or straight but just another Curve. 0.292 0.078 I'm off to the antipodes next year, and I'm hoping that the 7'6'' #5 that should be a #4 will go with me. Still looking for a guide to hire for a striper trip to the Bay. I have had my rod alongside an original and except for mine being new they were identical. While I have never cast an original (I think only a few were ever made by Mr. Dickerson) I have made a 4-5. Still own the other and it has a DT6 on it. .334@35 Obviously, custom tapers take a little longer to develop and build. What species do fish for with your bamboo rods? However many people may like them, does this mean they cannot be improved on? If you look at the individual changes every five inches, no they are not always .014, but the mean and mode are .014". 95 0.3435 (Tom Bowden). For example, the 8013 taper I use is .202 at the ferrule end of the tip, and .212 at the ferrule end of the butt. The idea is that the butt must not bend, and when it does its only at the very end, if it bends further down then the height of the line above the ground is dramatically reduced and thus fully one half of the "High speed high line" proposition is not met. I highly recommend him. Yes, there are specific applications for a 7'6" 5wt here in Michigan. by thramerrods 06/17/16 04:28, Post (Mark Dyba), Heh, nothing wrong with that. Get information on services and amenities, security protocols, health and safety measures, and more. Can someone email me the taper or point me in the right direction? (Robin Haywood). 0.214 (John Channer), Well, the #13 Payne ferrules that I've mic'd had a female ferrule internal diameter of .203" and the step-down internal diameter of .1875". But if you are just interested in a rod made on a Dickerson taper, then any number of qualified makers exist. Measurements under the handle are obviously estimates. The taper on David Ray's site is an 861711D. No Question about it, John Pickard. I always use Super Z, but I am not really into creating exact reproductions. (Tom Peters), 0.066 (Robin Haywood). The taper I used was from "The Lovely Reed." Your statement that "if you want to make overweight rods with unnecessarily heavy tips and relatively floppy butts then straight tapers will deliver. Pickard is the Dickerson rod maker these days. I use it as my Hex rod & for throwing big streamers. Tell me about it please. (Rich Jezioro). I would agree that one system is not all encompassing and I agree with the selection of evaluating criteria you outlined. Browse our collection of vintage fly boxes and wallets. Pickard makes nice rods for sure. 60 0.231 142296 The 1970 Dickerson has the same type tip as the 1952 except it has a very shallow flex in the upper butt and a faster swell into the butt, a 4/5 wt, faster rod. The rod I measured generally has 3/3 node spacing with the exception of two nodes falling right next to each other. Dickerson was a self-taught rodmaker who designed his own rod-milling and planing equipment. I think the 8014GS is up to the task. Click Here for Rod Raffle About Bob New Rods Purchasing & Shipping Dickerson Garrison Gillum Glass & Graphite Hardy Heddon Leonard Miscellaneous Rods Orvis Books & Catalogs Other Items Payne This first set was posted on The Classic Fly Rod Forum by Jeff Fultz. Hi, I am considdering letting my local builder make me copy of a Dickerson rod, after all the positive notes on his rods I have read here. Dave Norling, Rush River Rods, makes a stepdown 13/12 ferrule, the only size stepdown that he offers , that works very well for this taper. At Headwaters Bamboo Rod Company we build our rods based on proven "historical" tapers, meaning that the tapers we use were designed by Twentieth Century bamboo fly rod craftsmen. For those of you that have built this rod, does it flex into the beginning of the handle? Bamboo Tips - Tips Area (Robin Haywood). .266@20 Lyle Dickerson's famed taper. 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