endstream endobj startxref The Family Travel section assists Soldiers and Family members with Command Sponsorship requests, adding dependents to existing Command Sponsorship, transfer of Command Sponsorship, early return of dependent and dependent student travel. We have a DEROS of Spetember 30 this year. My son gets out of school for the summer June 10 th and would be going back around the 17th of July(if we wernt moving to Oki on the 14th of June). 6400, suits S301, Personnel Actions (NON-PSDR S1) Even if you leave early you will show on the roster until your actual DEROS month. Hours: Mon-Fri, 8:30 a.m. -- 5 p.m. cS@|N'Ft9r:_B\ If the remainder is 51 or more, one additional travel day is allowed. DEROS is the date an employee is expected to return from overseas. No matter how seasoned I think I am in this military life, (from military brat, in the military and now military spouse) a new situation seems to lurk its way into my comfort zone and shake things up. To my knowledge the DEROS date is just the earliest I can leave my duty station. . I had my plane tickets and was set to leave in a few days. 6-3e#D9&{Rj0HvFY{#>=G`[7_nL2X@Jl w5NVHDArCM9,@[# p{{AABBCt:Q*Owj #1D,;:%*M'Im8-MmN#m} QaQc%X`H!L`Xz9r%]#TAWvZ!h.NXeO5]sKQ`TKf lzq!Q mj@Ua_5{l2SAxf2.=B-3gopp9i$7miaR`_V=JdHOuA"f\,a%TgUPg!{RK[b]g%Y/;1Zwn|qqVvR^pT?n(O4 l\kr7"|eBU4f+IcZG>R 4dTQsGPmV;CR}Bk#rq@P8v)Wq7I$=AUmgfe3Cr Other services provided by MPD like Dependent Student Travel (Student Funded Travel), In-Place Consecutive Overseas Tour (IPCOT), and Emergency Leave. USAREUR, USARPAC, and 8th Army have been delegated the authority to extend up to 60 days past DEROS. S-657, Human Resources, Administrative Services Ask your command it is very likely they can adjust your dates to get you home. (References: AR 55-46 and AR614-30). hbbd``b`@ `$8@. Have your unit submit a curtailment (if they support) to give you the SRR to come back. He will try to space-A the flight with us. Well have official tickets to fly July 2. %%EOF If that doesnt work, well apply for an ERD (Early Return of Dependants) so at least I can get the kids enrolled in school on time while my husband does the outprocessing here. Can I go to east residence for an o-week event when Ill This is what happens when there is no war, no direction My buddy (former Army Sgt) started selling cars recently. The PCS departure date must be within the Airman's DEROS month (unless the DEROS was allowed to expire due to the Airman being on international hold, in confinement, or not being medically qualified for assignment). Chapters- Soldiers should attend as soon as your chapter is initiated. It's possible, but most units don't like it because they lose the body until your replacement comes at their scheduled PCS date. If youre trying to get home for Christmas you probably wont be able to be home for Christmas because you have to be in the overseas location to sign out on your PCS leave. Korea to Hawaii). We applied for a curtailment but it was denied. The good news is this am easy fix, after you have a leave form that shows you are taking 30 days pcs leave or if you just want to leave 28 days early the assignments section can change your deros for anything less then 30 days. Ramstein Civilian Personnel Rm S301, MPD Afterhours Support Phone (Emergency Leave ONLY): 010-4712-6728, email: usarmy.humphreys.id-pacific.list.mpd-emergency-leave@army.mil, Soldiers for Life-Transition Assistance Program (SFL-TAP) Just my two cents. Upon completion of your travel, you will file a travel voucher and submit it to your local finance office for reimbursement. Cookie Notice +~j?g6/7x}Ikfj A&t3gsBygS2t u^Qh}c6U|V>kN;2W~)6B`kw-tAH:GYF~M?/T|9JUh[7+ 1st Airmen must have at least 12 or more months retainability after the new DEROS to be eligible to PCS to another location. Hours: Mon-Fri, 8 a.m. -- 5 p.m. Any ideas? If so, would not wanting to go in the hole even be good enough for the justification? and our Welcome to the Military Personnel Division: Our mission is to provide timely and friendly diverse military personnel service support to Soldiers,their Family members, and retired military; thereby, promoting Soldier readiness and Family success. This is to maximize the use of AMC-contracted air travel, Patriot Express (PE). Plus that DA 31 already came back signed from our LTC so I assumed there were no issues with it. Airmen may request a DEROS extension of 1 to 35 months (not to exceed the standard accompanied tour length). If you do already have orders your hubby needs to go to transportation and tell them he needs to leave by X date so youd like your tickets to be as close to the as possible. The Retirement Services Office educates Soldiers and Family Members about their retirement benefits and entitlements, and provides the information needed to make appropriate and timely decisions for themselves and their Families DSN: 755-1081, ASAP, Risk Reduction Program coordinator 38 0 obj <>stream MPD began sending all installation clearing papers to the S1 for issuance to the Soldier. Take your leave, you are correct. Officer & # x27 ; s what the reg says so play it safe is! (Reference AR 614-30 & AR 55-46). The other outcome is that they deny your retirement based on strengths if you did take the promotion. Just a thought. Incomplete packet will only delay the process, ensure your packet is complete. 6400, Suite S301, Publications and Forms Still, the posts are very brief for novices. Resources for DLA and Serviced Overseas Employees Preparing for Employment Overseas. Contact someone within the district or superindentants office. DSN: 757-2501 This VA claim program allows retiring or separating service members to submit claims for VA disability compensation between 180 to 90 days prior to separation, retirement or release from active duty (or demobilization). The appearance of hyperlinks does not constitute endorsement by the Department of Defense Education Activity (DoDEA) of non-U.S. Government sites or the information, products, or services contained therein. Your Commander's Support Staff may require things of you to outprocess your individual unit as well. Example DA Form 4187 for changing of DEROS date? Thank you all for your advice/experience. Location: Bldg. Hours: Wednesdays-Friday 8 a.m. -- 5 p.m. Left? I have done this with so many things in life and gotten what I needed done because of it, even with people telling me,its not worth it, blah blah, blah. A: Your spouse is located in the U.S. or another country You will not be authorized travel to go to your spouses location; however, your spouse be will able to relocate from his/her current location to your gaining PDS. The Retirement Services Officer provides a monthly pre-retirement briefing, retirement information support, and mandatory Survivor Benefit Plan counseling. If HRC approved JD, and it is not on your orders, then you will need for each back to your losing MPD to have your orders amended. DSN: 757-2097 or 0503-357-2097 Location: Bldg. My understanding is that the DEROS is the drop dead have to be off the island dateyou can leave anywhere before that as long as you have orders in hand. DSN: 757-2089 The DEROS extension affords the Airmen the opportunity to extend their DEROS to accommodate personal needs, such as projected leave, retirement, moving during the school summer break or matching their DEROS to a military S-572 (2nd Floor), DHR Director We plan to go to Tokyo Disney and Disney Sea, but Tokyo is apparently not considered circuitous because we have to go through anyway. Soldier is due to PCS from OCONUS to CONUS location and backfill is delayed. The Department of Defense (DoD) promotes establishment of assignments not to exceed 5 years in the overseas environment. You can always be moved within a MACOM as long as it's within the same MACOM. DEROS is the date an employee is expected to return from overseas. Acronym. The Transition Center (TC) provides quality transition service to all Soldiers (Active Duty, Army Reserve, National Guard) transitioning from the military for administrative separations (voluntary,. The good news is this am easy fix, after you have a leave form that shows you are taking 30 days pcs leave or if you just want to leave 28 days early the assignments section can change your deros for anything less then 30 days. If you did defer the COT entitlement you must use it prior to the completion of your new tour. AAFES Good luck!! Closed on U.S. holidays DEROS 08DEC21, you can request a fly date of 01DEC21). 0 When u have a DEROS transportation can schedule your departure 5days before or 5 days after. You might have done this, but just a thought. Location: Bldg. Location: Bldg. 2 GrindhouseMedia 7 yr. ago Extend. 6400, Suite F102 (1st Floor), Military Personnel Division (MPD) Acceptable documents include: Approved Overseas Tour Extension document Updated/Amended PCS Order ORB/ERB (Army) that reflects DEROS SURF (Navy) that reflects DEROS Official Memorandum signed by competent authority that verifies current assignment and documents updated DEROS. 30 0 obj <>/Filter/FlateDecode/ID[<1D42514DE1629982ED1AA74D125F82F0>]/Index[22 17]/Info 21 0 R/Length 60/Prev 76487/Root 23 0 R/Size 39/Type/XRef/W[1 2 1]>>stream We will be able to leave before our DEROS. If your leave does not leave you shy of your tour requirment your unit would most likely support your request as they are losing nothing in the exchange. He still cannot officially outprocess until August. Itll really be a waste of your money since youll have to pay to leave and return to the overseas location just to turn around and fly back out. DSN: 757-4303 The various agencies within the Military Personnel Division are responsible for providing installation level personnel services to military personnel within USAG Humphreys community. DSN: 757-2516 Next option is do a 4187 which only has to be signed by the brigade commander to adjust deros 28 days. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. DSN: 757-2102 Priority 10: CONUS to CONUS PCS Assignments If your PCS is a CONUS-CONUS move and your original RNLTD was Your RNLTD will be extended by Your new RNLTD will be Mar, Apr, May, or Jun, 3-6 months Sep Jul 3 months Oct Aug 3 months Nov Sep 3 months Dec Oct 3 months Jan Nov 3 months Feb Dec 3 months Mar Additionally . So would it not be an issue since Im in hawaii? The window for Soldiers to depart is their DEROS plus 10 days. Location: Bldg. Check out the Ramstein Out-Processing Guide here. A: No, date eligible to return from overseas (DEROS) date is the earliest date that a Soldier can depart the permanent duty station (PDS). If an offer of a position would result in a DEROS that exceeds the DoD 5 year limitation, an approval from the Head of the Agency will be required. V" a)z#GRKW2aqnp\.y/6ti P$ZFk[iH$(06'm2=Q73STghM^ DEROS is commonly referred to as "tour of duty". In fact, if you take leave (we always take thirty days during a PCS to and from here), you can leave even earlier if you want. Location: Bldg. Or, somehow have unicorn orders like I do and you can report 20 days late. When I say we I mean just myself and the kids will have official tickets from here to the states. A: No, only authorized dependents, those enrolled into DEERS and reflecting in eMILPO as authorized dependents, can be listed on PCS orders. 6400 My husband is AD Navy currently green side with a Marine corps unit. @k U>.x,eXO /C`2K}';|tyhV#@HE5:#_r7itMlI!+Wy3Wx>5aRl-J(7 |qxJXZ`T[9lX1c5i vfiorB:!c+[d41g^:!hY Bo0ls'Pb#`BJ0>gEf>}Vp*7i%|c]8%)W^v*u)LDva|;|4r5&p~,hjlznF>L These S1 clerks were saying that I shouldnt take this holiday block leave because I would be busting my deros date, but Id still have nearly a whole month to finish clearing if I took this leave. Typically, when you're doing your Levy to get orders, you can request a fly date within 7 days of your DEROS (ex. Freedom of Information For information regarding travel and transportation to an overseas area, Government liability for travel to and from an overseas duty location or for a check list for use in tracking the completion of necessary forms/processes before you leave and upon arrival in the overseas area. Your spouse is located with you here in Korea In this situation your spouse is considered an acquired dependent. Adds procedures for medical workcenters to review outprocessing Soldiers' medical-readiness classifications and deployment and postdeployment health assessments (paras D-8c (2) (a) and (b)). Any stragglers may not get in and will be bused to another school. My husband was told he has to go through the Marine Corps to get it started and was told he needed some form letter, but no one seems to know what it is or where to find it. It all works out. So we want to leave in July, and have applied for a curtailment. This is our dilemma: Were PCSing this summer. The school liason stressed the importance of getting the students enrolled before the first day of school due to over enrollment. (Reference DoD 7000.14 Table 26-39 and ALARACT 009/2021). Bldg. %PDF-1.6 % I was stationed OCONUS with a CONUS PCS. 6400, room U-101. 6400, Suite S318, Education Services A: COT Consecutive Overseas tour, (One OCONUS PDS to another OCONUS PDS, i.e. For more information, please see our We cannot officially PCS until August 1 because my husbands sign-in-date is Aug 30. I dont think ERD is even an option in this case. Hours: Mon-Fri, 8 a.m. -- 5 p.m. The AROD or Advance return of Dependents will not work for this case because it cost the government more money. DSN: 755-1080 Once the documentation is received, NDSP eligibility will be extended to the end of the current school year. If not your hubby can put in a cratailment to leave early. Hours: Mon-Fri, 8 a.m. -- 3 p.m. PCS Orders Human Resources Command (HRC) will notify your Soldier of his or her assignment to South Korea. The Soldier's DEROS could be extended to meet the immediate critical operational need. A: If you signed out of your unit before 13 March 2020, you should continue on your PCS move. Our DEROS is August and the sign in date is August 30. Hours: Mon-Fri, 8 a.m. -- 5 p.m. 6400, Suite S301. My husband will try space-A to accompany us and then return to finish up and fly officially a few weeks later. A: No, date eligible to return from overseas (DEROS) date is the earliest date that a Soldier can depart the permanent duty station (PDS). iE9R)=}A_ C.+(x[fK>QL*krfbph{i4u6T)&?9wW+MTmRc ;s336 *eh_% v`Kqa\r{S2X2LSVVmfK#i7&#T2Mfw) I am a simple gal and want to uncomplicate things as much as possibleas long as I can get my kids in school on time. DSN: 755-1090, ASAP, Drug Testing Coordinator Family Child Care License Pamphlet You cannot depart your current assignment any earlier then your deros not even on pcs leave. Youd think schools that deal with the military would be used to those cases. What does ETS date mean? In any of the stateside schools our children have attended their presence was not necessary for the enrollment process. Location: Bldg. It really doesnt matter when your DEROS is if the gaining base needs you sooner, they need you sooner, it is not a date set in stone it is the date you are scheduled to leave. I am complete agreement with Diana. DSN: 755-1088, ASAP, Employee Assistance Program Thank you for commenting. DSN: 757-2089 (Requesting the gaining unit accept him a month early to change our DEROS here.) Location: Bldg. The TC prepares and provides a detailed and accurate certificate of release or discharge from active duty (DD Form 214), the most important document a transitioning Soldier receives. Of leaving a bit early? Prior to final job offer, your DEROS will be established. A: No, only HRC has the authority to adjust report dates. Many folks try leave early and end up taking leave so that when they do finally make it to their new duty station their furniture isnt too far behind. If the distance is greater than400 miles, then divide by 350 to determine the number of authorized travel days. Do you already have orders in hand? 6400. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Or am I screwed on that? h+#%bao:h72H>$Ho)ILY our big problem is finding out where is considered circuitous. 1/y"=s!!Jt/x{(u` oe" IOd!&8kf,NK +h\T4otdq"6*J#Gg.<=f7~;Y\QFa*Y&[% Am I still obligated to pcs with less than a year left on my contract? Its more for extreme cases where the family has to return home. upon the end of my sponsor's accompanied tour or on the date of one of the following circumstances: a.Relocation back to the United States in connection with PCS orders; b.Relocation from their assigned duty station's local commuting area to another duty location outside the United States in connection with a PCS move; c.Divorce d.Death of . The Soldier's DEROS could be extended to meet the immediate critical operational need. To extend the entitlement of eligibility with NDSP, documentation must be provided that specifically addresses continuing authority to remain in the overseas area. However, if the dependent(s) choose to depart prior to the Soldier and in order to start BAH at the gaining permanent duty station (PDS) the Soldier must have an approved Secretarial Wavier. ,K52(nvIn:}tg7@ue ^;9e>]@~# jxss=es}915?~Sl2d|msM CL Am/ ;o|N >3+ ^JJii} l|#& Can I take terminal leave after my ETS date? I think weve worked out as many of the kinks as we can. My son will graduate from high school this June, and we are trying to figure out how to apply for early return so that he may start college. (Within the same month.) If that doesnt work, Id leave without him. If you left the vehicle with a friend, relative or any other location you will not be authorized travel expenses/reimbursement to pick up your POV. Why is your husbands sign in date the same as his DEROS? Soldier PCS Policy Guidance 1 of 4 Version: 20200309.01 If a Soldier exceed this, they will require a DEROS adjustment and an amendment to their orders. ETS- Soldiers should attend a transition brief no later than 6 months prior to their ETS date. Those serving in excepted service appointments, An official website of the United States government, The Nation's Combat Logistics Support Agency, Hosted by Defense Media Activity - WEB.mil. Hours: Mon-Fri, 8 a.m. -- 5 p.m. If you have the message that tells you for sure you are leaving and where you are going (persgram) but not orders, you can put in for leave and that should generate ordersbut you have to have that persgram already. If you did not defer your COT entitlement you must use your COT entitlement between tours. Official Mail and Distribution Center (OMDC) The amount of time you have already served in the overseas area will be included in the establishment of your DEROS (i.e., your new position would normally have a 24 month tour of duty but because you have already served 40 months in the overseas area, your new tour would be limited to 20 months so you will not exceed the DoD five year limit for return from the overseas area). I mean just myself and the kids will have official tickets from here to end... Our we can not officially PCS until August 1 because my husbands is! 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