Have you ever broken up with someone and not felt bad about it? Her friend tried to soothe her, to no avail. She even brings it up again in the love letter she left for him. I knew Chris as a middle schooler and high schooler, he went to school with my kids. ! she texted, adding, He said we are not compatible anymore! All of this would allow him to pacify her as well as himself and buy him some more time. Do there was financial issues going on. He takes her side in the nutgate incident and its possible hed already made up his mind what he was going to do so he could act like he was on her side knowing it really didnt make much difference, he was going to get rid of everyone anyway. I think it had more to do with her controlling ways and if she knew in her heart that was why he was becoming distant or non-communicative, she really didnt know how to change that about herself, and instead amped it up until co-existing with her became unbearable to him. A puzzle that is missing many key pieces. Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - (Speaking about their relationship) - YouTube 0:00 / 7:24 #ShanannWatts #ChrisWatts Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - (Speaking about. Six days later, she was dead -- strangled at the hands of her own husband. To me inside he was a volcano just waiting to erupt. Chris mother is controlling. Grief is written on your face for the rest of your life. Interesting points made here. CW probably didnt believe he was good enough or thought he could do better. Just Published! Chris did a lot to help around the house yes he was the father of the family. But Chris was already involved in an affair: He had become intimate with an unwitting co-worker who believed he was getting a divorce from his wife. Shanann thought or hoped the marriage was stuttering slightly. It was so refreshing to finally see an actual, logical response. That was definitely the plan." She was an independent representative for the multi-level marketing company Le-Vel. Guaranteed she didnt make enough to support herself, she needed Chris pay to keep her illusion going. No one has been able to fathom Chris Watts' motive - until now Two Face is available now exclusively on Amazon Kindle Unlimited. You feel like youre expendable. It is how you build one. All parents would want the best education for their children. According to Shannans ex, she had many of the same traits as Chris! And I say this as a woman you can be controlling and its something Im always working on. The way she told him about Nico was bizarre. But wasn't he eligible for the GI Bill hmmmmm? The Watts Family Murders became a talk of many talks and news shows; episodes of ABC News television news magazine 20/20, American talk show Dr. Phil, and The Dr. Oz Show featured the story of the massacre. He described how he did it. At all. It has helped me to put my thoughts in perspective because nothing else has. in the future. And her house that everyone is talking about? And Leonard King said the same thing that it was virtually impossible to engage her in conversation. But she didnt let up about it. In many of Shananns videos she describes him a lot like that hell do whatever I tell him to do etc. I would have never thot he would be able to kill his family, the people he loved with all his heart. Her first marriage/husband Discussion I'm interested in Shannan's first marriage. Shanann knew for months their marriage was in deep deep trouble but she also thought the 3rd pregnancy was a binder to keep Chris in her control. He comes across as predatory and basic. The couple was blessed with two daughters: Bella Marie Watts who was born on December 17, 2013, and Celeste Cathryn Cece Watts who was born on July 17, 2015. The final minute of the video posted at this link [an extended version of the clip above] is very insightful in this regard. In addition to the murder charges for Shanann and his daughters, he also pleaded guilty . I think Nick Der Leek does an outstanding job because he cleverly reviewed the case in its entirety and was able to provide spot on the mental makeup of both Chris and Shannan beginning with being unequally yoked. At first, Christ had told the police that he did not know where his wife and two daughters were and he hadnt seen his wife since he left for the work at 5:15 am on August 13. How old was he? Ive watched hundreds of hours of videos and read all the discovery on this case and I think some of what you write may be true but not all. Amy Miller, executive director of Violence Free Colorado, said people who are being abused by an intimate partner often behave in ways that seem counterintuitive to those around them. That summer, Chris had gone from a loving husband to a cheater to a killer. She loved dogs and had a dachshund named Dieter. After Shananns death and Chris arrest, Dieter was kept at a friends house and later went to live with her brother, Frankie. You spoil us with love an attention! Going way back, back to the conversation she had with Mr. Hamza, back before Chris was shopping around for hookups, back to when he might have first flirted with Nichole Kessinger. He wants to fade into the background. There is this notion of delay, postpone, string things out. She did tho, threaten him all the time, to take the kids away and he would never see them again. We may never know, but amateur sleuths may want to look at a timeline of their marriage for clues. Maybe she liked him supporting her, but they were going to run out of money again. In June 2018, Shanann told her husband she was pregnant with their third child. Chris was working for Anadarko Petroleum Corp at that time and the couple had to pay a debt of $44800. He smothered his daughters to death, buried his wife in a shallow grave, dumped his daughters' bodies in an oil tank, then he went to work as if nothing happened. His belief was; if I dont make the decision, I wont ever be wrong. Another type of family killer to look at would be DISAPPOINTED KILLERS or people who believe they have been let down by those around themmostly their partner and children. Hes conflicted by the pros and cons of making such a drastic change in his life. Hopefully hell spend the rest of his life being emasculated by being another prisoners jail bitch. Obviously Thrive was all BS and she was facing a pregnancy all by herself, flat broke and facing humiliation from her team/peers and raising kids by herself. You dont just go out and buy thousands of dollars worth of shit just before filing bankruptcy and expect to keep it. Tammy Lee, an investigator in the case, conducted the . At TCRS we dont try to take anyones side, were just trying to figure out what happened. I think the parents were used as a shield, the children too, so that she would not be alone with Watts in a small hotel room trying to work out their issues and his absolutely apparent, angry and distant demeanor toward her. LEONARD had heard that SHANANN was really involved in . Didnt she say somewhere that Chris is the one who thought a third child, hoping for a boy, would help their marriage and then she mentions to people that he now thinks Bella and Celeste are enough? Chris Watts ' pregnant wife, Shanann Watts, and daughters Bella and Celeste went missing on Aug. 13, 2018, after she missed a doctor's appointment. You do so much everyday for us and take such great care of us. In Shananns mind she may have convinced herself it all had to do with the nut argument with his parents, then at the end of her life she may have gotten the message that he was cheating, but way way before that. I dont know if Shanann could have acclamated herself to a different lifestyle, honestly I guess well never know. Theres also the reality check that she might not have been able to leave the state if Chris filed for joint custody. Specially after they are both dead! They argued and he strangled her. I can also see just a natural tendency for women to support another woman in a scenario where the man is cheating. DENVER (AP/CBS4) Chris Watts, the sole suspect arrested in the murder of his pregnant wife and two young daughters, before dumping their bodies at an . Once there, he smothered the girls and dumped the bodies of all three. The Watts family eventually settled in Frederick, Colorado in a five-bedroom home they bought in 2013. NEVER. We also know that in the weeks prior Shanann was setting her husband up in her Thrive spiels as a great father and perfect husband and the best thing that has ever happened to her. On to your other pointsyes and no to CW being spinelesswhile he was having an affair AND it gave him his first taste of new freedom and excitement that would have quickly worn off once there wasnt a secret to keep/hide. Didnt Shanann cheat on Leonard with the middle eastern guy at Dirty South he mentions? Was it weakness on his part or hers? THIS IS TOTAL LEFT FIELD.. Have a great time.". Chris Watts has been arrested and charged with murder in connection with the deaths of Shanann, Bella, and Celeste. If she was (if she was making $80K a year) she would have to end up paying him child support. Shanann Watts Chris Watts familyhttps://www.facebook.com/ShanannWatts/photosCredit: Shanann Watts/Facebook, Chris Wattsdivorcehair jazzSeparationTimeline. So they had been together only 8 years and 3 day at the time on that fatal morning. It is hard to understand why Chris committed the violent acts. Shanann Watts appeared to be fighting for her marriage up until she was murdered by her husband Chris Watts.. Just a couple of weeks after the first trailer for American Murder: The Family Next . This narrative isnt very nice, and not very popular. He then loaded his daughters into his truck along with their mother's body. However. If Shanann was a horrible person to some it doesnt mean she killed her children when so much premeditation seems to be at hand. By clicking Accept All Cookies, you agree to the storing of cookies on your device to enhance site navigation, analyze site usage, and assist in our marketing efforts. She died on August 13, 2018 in Frederick, Colorado, USA. Thats what was so difficult to get out of. Shananns behavior is not odd at all, in fact, its pretty much how people act when they no longer want to be with you. They were a family. He refused to hug me after he said he will try to work it out! In BENEATH THE OIL, for the first time the full extent of how Chris Watts was locked-in is revealed, as well as why he may have broken out of his deeply dysfunctional marriage the way he did. Or to think everything is good but to learn that it isnt. "It's horrific": Christopher Watts' sweetheart talks around for the first time as sentencing in Frederick murders pulls near The woman also known as authorities before Watts' arrest for murdering his girlfriend and two daughters Whenever Nichol Kessinger And this seems to be the word he prefers to use. It is something I myself have done (not proud and definitely not in the same situation of course) but I can see where things can pile up and become hard to face or tell the truth on. Coverts are nominally closet bi-sexuals. LEONARD's current wife, dabbled in Thrive, which was the same employment as SHANANN WATTS. People with less than 2 brain cells should not be allowed to comment on public posts. However, at the same time he was telling Kessinger a slightly different story. When nobody answered the doorbell, Nickole notified Chris who was at work, and also called the Frederick Police Department. Shannan's body was . Shanann and her unborn child were found in a shallow grave near the oil tanks where Watts dumped his children. We can only speculate, theorize and opinionate on triggers and reasons why as there hasnt been concrete proof of what his motives were. He has changed. I think he was confused and didnt want to make a strong decision either way, yet wanted out of his marriage and family life. According to Shananns family, they werent consulted about the film and only came to know about the film when it was already in production. Over the summer of 2018, Chris Watts changed. On Monday, Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant, was reported missing along with her two daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. I think the combination of having freedom, no matter who he was with, the upcoming gender reveal, the added pressure to their financial and health woes, Shanann badgering him for not responding to or caring about her when shes in North Carolina, and then the final straw of the nut gate incident and Shanann basically demanding he cut off his family with the exact wording he should use to confront them, and adding that they wont be allowed to to see his children again nudged him towards the decision to get rid of his family who were becoming too large of a burden for him. He seems to be middle class, possibly depressed due to conflicts and internal struggles *possible psychological issues*, past violent behaviorhe seems like a silent passive-aggressive-explosive type that is unstable and unsteady. I also find that interesting which seems to me she couldnt handle conflict either. 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So why take the children out too? There was never an investigation in the case, therefore its impossible to know who killed Shanann or the little girls. But it is frustrating watching people who live 1000 times above their means and then expect everybody else to forgive their debts through bankruptcy. I am curious why we never hear from any other women in Chris Watts past? I dont know who he is, she texted a friend on Aug. 7, 2018. Shanann posted videos of family drama embarrassing Chris and his family, posted at least one video saying she is the dominant one in their family, insulted Chris repeatedly saying things like he has no balls and no game, insulting him to his family and to her friends. He pleaded guilty that November to all three slayings. Wedding Picture of Shanann and Chris Watts. Yeah, she was a real gem. Chris had been pulling away from her for a long time but once she got pregnant he was trapped and she knew it. She added that domestic violence does not have to be physical. The fact that Shanann was talking to a divorce lawyer about custody in April, three-and-a-half months before the murders, suggests there was a protracted period of unhappiness, and acknowledgement from both sides that things were falling apart. In 2015, Shanann and Chris Watts filed for bankruptcy, listing their liabilities at $400,000. Its 2018, but in many families there is still shame associated with being a victim of domestic violence, and survivors often try to put a good face on the relationship, said Kim Gandy, president of the National Network to End Domestic Violence. In a fit of rage, Chris strangulated Shanann and took the three dead bodies to a remote oil-storage site, Anadarko Petroleum, where he was employed before. He and Shanann began to fight. How did things change so quickly? Meanwhile Chris was looking for someone else, he was just sick of her and all her BS. Thanks Holly, for spending some time thinking and sharing your thoughts on these questions. You seem to like the psychopath label. The thousands in shoes, clothes, purses etc. If he was completely spineless he wouldnt have had the affair or committed the murder. You dont consider others at all, nor think about others' feelings.. When it comes to Familicide, it is really hard to pinpoint and say there were absolutely no outward signs I do think CW appeared to be very standoffish and distant in the last videos of them on the trip. It may or may not tell the tale of whats really going on, she said. During the investigation, Shananns purse containing her phone and keys, her car in the garage, and her wedding ring on the couples bed were found. Like a mercy killing. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN married in 2002/2003 and divorced in 2007/2008 in SC. Granted, this is much, much worse than that, but there may be a clue to the criminal psychology in the family dynamics. Taylor, "I am here for you and whatever you need. Likely when Chris did the same thing to her she may have had some insight into herself, that this is what happened with Leonard, which caused her to try her hardest to get Chris to talk to her. At some point she was finished with the relationship and iced him out. So why didnt Watts just get a divorce, like the district attorney said? She had a brother named Frankie Rzucek. Shanann hiding her possible impending divorce, goes along with her living in denial as she does when she tells her Thrive clients that shes a better mother and all around human being because she wears a patch, eats the bars and drinks the shakes. Not saying that is right or even completely true, I feel that this would have started whether or not SW was out of town for that long. Shanann Watts and the girls had gone to visit her . In 2010, she met Chriss Lee Watts, who was an employee of the Anadarko Petroleum, Woodlands, Texas. 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